What can I use instead of leaf springs?

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Leaf spring suspensions are simpler when it comes to the functionality as the axle is suspended by the spring and doesn’t require arduous suspension geometry of the coil-spring set-up. Leaf springs are much sturdier in comparison to coil springs. They’re capable of handling much highest loads with less deflection than coils, trucks with leaf springs are also easier to raise or lower.

Leaf springs’ simply means each spring is attached at fixed points on the chassis, it leaves a miniscule area for adjustability and customisation of the suspension geometry. These springs also flex a great deal less than coil springs which means loss of wheel-to-ground contact under extreme conditions.

Advantages

  • Strong and simple construction, linking holds the axle in position without the need for separate linkage.

  • Leaf springs can support the weight of the chassis of a vehicle and so it is perfect for use on commercial vehicles.

  • They control axle damping- to damper means the main function of a shock. They are used to control spring oscillation by using hydraulic fluid.

  • Typically, they are simple in design and cheaper to produce

Disadvantages

  • They aren’t always the easiest to install

  • Over time the springs tend to lose shape and can be prone to sagging. When the spring starts to become uneven, it can alter the cross weight of the vehicle and therefore may affect the handling. This can also alter the axle-to-mount angle.

  • Wind-up and vibration can be caused by acceleration and braking torque. The wind-up can also cause nose-diving and rear-end squat.

For more information on leaf springs, find out more here.

Leaf spring alternative design

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In summary, Airbag suspension systems are gradually replacing leaf springs in passenger cars. The quality of steel in a swing arm is lower than that needed for a spring because the continuous flexing does not lead to fatigue cracking as it does in springs. Coil springs are better behaved than leaf springs because they do not need to be tapered or laminated.

  • Jan 10, 2015
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to make leaf spring we can use any plastic materials ? what are strong plastics? please find it friends

 

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  • Jan 10, 2015
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Kevlar is strong in tension. Layered with a plastic strong in compression makes a good plastic spring - though commonly expressed as a bow strung for shooting arrows. Similar shape, same technology.

 

  • Jan 10, 2015
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kannanraja said:

please find it friends

You cannot expect the members of PF to search for a new special spring material just because you hate steel.
If you have a new material or technology then please let us know. We will review your suggestion.

Welcome to PF.You cannot expect the members of PF to search for a new special spring material just because you hate steel.If you have a new material or technology then please let us know. We will review your suggestion.

 

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  • Jan 11, 2015
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what use would the leaf springs have? if its automotive i'd be surprised that the engineers creating super-cars would not have already tested the longevity of plastics for leaf springs under the loads a car would create simply to drop more useless weight from the cars (springs are a big weight in cars made mostly of kevlar.)

 

  • Jan 12, 2015
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kannanraja said:

to make leaf spring we can use any plastic materials ?


You probably mean...

If so, then yes...

Dave McLellan said:

We planned to use a massive front [roll] bar to achieve the roll stiffness we were after.

We found, however, that by spreading the body attachment of the front suspension fiberglass spring into two separate attachments 18 inches apart, we could achieve a major portion of the roll stiffness contribution of the front roll bar for free. We still used a massive front bar, but it would have been even bigger and heavier if it had not been supplemented by the leaf spring.


Carroll Smith said:

If I were involved in the design of a new passenger vehicle, however, I would give serious consideration to the use of a transverse composite single leaf spring of unidirectional glass or carbon filament in an epoxy matrix. This would be the lightest practical spring configuration and, although space constraints would seem to limit its use in racing, it should be perfectly feasible on road-going vehicles, from large trucks to small commuter cars. (Since I wrote this paragraph the new-generation Corvette has come out with just such a spring to control its independent suspension systems-at both end of the car.)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette_leaf_spring

You probably mean... fibre-reinforced plastics If so, then yes...

 

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  • Jan 12, 2015
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OCR said:



If so, then yes...

You probably mean... fibre-reinforced plastics If so, then yes... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette_leaf_spring

figured someone had already been looking at this the shear weight savings of losing big steel springs would drop fuel consumption enough to be worth the effort.

figured someone had already been looking at this the shear weight savings of losing big steel springs would drop fuel consumption enough to be worth the effort.

 

  • Feb 6, 2015
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Hey OCR, just want to state my admiration for Carroll Smith.
He took the fight for Ford to Ferrari and beat them at Lemans.
The man was a genius and an real Engineer "In Theory And Practice".
His books taught me so much when we started racing Formula Fords.
May He rest in Peace!

(sorry to go off subject here)

DC

 

  • Feb 7, 2015
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Since the 1970s, airbag suspension systems have been gradually replacing leaf springs.

The leaf spring is simple and locates the axle relative to the vehicle body. Without a leaf spring there needs to be a swing arm with some additional sway control structure. The quality of the steel in a swing arm is lower than that needed for a spring because the continuous flexing does not lead to fatigue cracking as it does in springs. Unlike a leaf spring, the swing arm can benefit from the use of a hollow section.

The competition is not for a better material for leaf springs, but for a more durable and resilient rubber material.

 

  • Feb 11, 2015
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Baluncore said:

Since the 1970s, airbag suspension systems have been gradually replacing leaf springs.


Not normally. Most cars use some kind of strut or double wishbone design with steel coil springs. Airbags are uncommon.

Not normally. Most cars use some kind of strut or double wishbone design with steel coil springs. Airbags are uncommon.

 

  • Feb 11, 2015
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cjl said:

Not normally.

Coil springs are better behaved than leaf springs because they do not need to be tapered or laminated.

Leaf springs have been gradually disappearing. In light cars, leaf springs are usually replaced with coil springs. But in heavy vehicle suspension systems, leaf springs have been widely replaced by airbag suspension. Airbag suspension does less damage to the road than leaf spring suspension. Airbags permit higher tyre pressures which reduces sidewall flexing, they lower tyre temperature which extends tyre life. Airbag suspension is also easily adjustable.

Coil springs are better behaved than leaf springs because they do not need to be tapered or laminated.Leaf springs have been gradually disappearing. In light cars, leaf springs are usually replaced with coil springs. But in heavy vehicle suspension systems, leaf springs have been widely replaced by airbag suspension. Airbag suspension does less damage to the road than leaf spring suspension. Airbags permit higher tyre pressures which reduces sidewall flexing, they lower tyre temperature which extends tyre life. Airbag suspension is also easily adjustable.

 

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Do trucks use air suspension typically then? That's fascinating - I didn't know that. I was purely referring to passenger cars, where coils are the most common spring type right now.

 

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Take a look at this;

Discussion re: the advantages to heavier vehicles; http://4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=97961&start=30

To see the availability of retro-fit bags for cars … google; airbag suspension kits

Airbag suspension is more expensive than coil springs.Take a look at this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_suspension Discussion re: the advantages to heavier vehicles; http://4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=97961&start=30To see the availability of retro-fit bags for cars … google; airbag suspension kits

 

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1. What is a leaf spring and why is an alternative design necessary?

A leaf spring is a type of suspension system commonly used in vehicles to support the weight of the vehicle and absorb shocks from the road. It consists of multiple layers of curved metal strips stacked on top of each other. An alternative design may be necessary to improve the ride quality, durability, or weight of the vehicle.

2. What are some common alternatives to leaf springs?

Some common alternatives to leaf springs include coil springs, air springs, torsion bars, and independent suspension systems. Each of these alternatives has its own advantages and disadvantages, and the choice of which one to use depends on the specific needs of the vehicle.

3. What are the benefits of using an alternative design for leaf springs?

Some potential benefits of using an alternative design for leaf springs include improved handling and ride quality, reduced weight, and increased durability. Alternative designs may also allow for more flexibility in vehicle design and customization.

4. How do engineers determine the best alternative design for leaf springs?

Engineers consider various factors such as the weight of the vehicle, desired ride quality, terrain conditions, and cost when determining the best alternative design for leaf springs. They may also conduct simulations and tests to evaluate the performance of different designs before making a decision.

5. Are there any drawbacks to using alternative designs for leaf springs?

While alternative designs may offer advantages, they may also have some drawbacks. For example, some alternative designs may be more expensive to produce, or they may require more maintenance. Additionally, some alternative designs may not be suitable for certain types of vehicles or terrain conditions.

What can I use instead of leaf springs?

Leaf spring alternative design